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Post by [GU]AnnaBeaver on Nov 27, 2004 13:14:04 GMT -5
UPS will ship for $99.00 USD. However, USPS ships with a 3-5 delivery time and a larger package size and weight , Global Priority Shipping for $22.00 USD and that includes insurance. So if you want it Sonic, let me know and I'll ship it out to you.
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Nov 27, 2004 13:19:21 GMT -5
The Phantom's lesson in Video Card and Video game economics: Over time, two things happen: Companies make their products faster and more powerful. As well, they learn to run them at slower rates. As a result, two things happen: Look to the first two. Now why do they continue to do these things? Why is just an endless cycle of improvement and money spending? Well, there are several reasons. The first being ambition. People naturally want to create the greatest and continue to make the greatest greater. Another reason for this is competion. Of course, these companies want to make the most money, so they have to make the best product in order to keep you from buying another company's product. A third reason is growth. When a company has the best sales, it will naturally gain more money which it can use to fund expansion, developement, and cheaper cunstruction. When a company can make a product cheaper, more people will buy it; when it becomes better, more people will buy it; when it becomes more available, it becomes both cheaper and bought more. As stated earlier, merely an endless cycle of buying and developing. As well, the developement of Video cards and Video games is like a double helix. They must spin and circulate at simultaneus speeds. The games are like a floor to the stairs: They keep the cards from falling under if they are too advanced or too slow. The cards are like a cealing: They keep the rain off of the games if they are too complex or too crappy. This cuncludes our lecture. And remember kids: Economics, as important as it is, is the spawn of satin.
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Post by Obster on Nov 27, 2004 14:55:15 GMT -5
well if u ask me economics sucks long down, we have it this year at school, and lemme just say this: WHAT A LEAD OF HOOLAHOOP!come on, most people knew what they r teaching us by the age of 8!
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Nov 27, 2004 18:49:12 GMT -5
Your taking an flagrantly bad economics class...
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Post by [GU]AnnaBeaver on Nov 27, 2004 21:55:27 GMT -5
Well, I think most of us learned that early on in the life of the common home pc, when each year you would discover that your pc had become outdated and then some. So, you were required to buy a new one every year it seemed. Then came the fabulously irritating" buy this pc and sign up for AOL for 4yrs and get $400.00 back" supposedly meaning that your pc will only cost you $100.00. Boy, was that a load of poo. But the development of pc's themselves has stabalized a bit, but peripherals have taken a jump.
If a company makes hardware that handles kick butt software or apps, then other companies will make the kick butt software, and of course if a company makes kick butt software then another company will make hardware in which to use it with. It all boils down to the level of performance that each person is comfortable with. Of course I myself always want my pc to be better graphically and faster.
I thought that 7200rpm hard drives were the fastest out there but it turns out that's not the case. Essentially we are still in the infancy stage of technology. technology has only really been around for 50-60yrs, and in the grand scope of time, that isn't very long.
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Post by yeochins on Nov 28, 2004 7:40:16 GMT -5
[quote author=[TNT]AnnaBeaver link=board=Brags&thread=1101176555&start=19#1 date=1101610527]Well, I think most of us learned that early on in the life of the common home pc, when each year you would discover that your pc had become outdated and then some. So, you were required to buy a new one every year it seemed. Then came the fabulously irritating" buy this pc and sign up for AOL for 4yrs and get $400.00 back" supposedly meaning that your pc will only cost you $100.00. Boy, was that a load of poo. But the development of pc's themselves has stabalized a bit, but peripherals have taken a jump.
If a company makes hardware that handles kick butt software or apps, then other companies will make the kick butt software, and of course if a company makes kick butt software then another company will make hardware in which to use it with. It all boils down to the level of performance that each person is comfortable with. Of course I myself always want my pc to be better graphically and faster.
I thought that 7200rpm hard drives were the fastest out there but it turns out that's not the case. Essentially we are still in the infancy stage of technology. technology has only really been around for 50-60yrs, and in the grand scope of time, that isn't very long. [/quote]
Actually its quite the contrary. Companies that compete with each other need a large amount of money. Consider this;
ATI, and Nvidia, Intel, and AMD are the leading in graphics, and next generation proccessors. But why isn't any other company comming around? Simply because they dont have the money to.
All 4 companies dedicate 1000x the amount of money than vodoo or other hardware companies that specialise in those area, would spend for development.
The real blunt fact is that ATI, and Nvidia wont be releasing anything better than their 6800 ultra extreme, and X800 XT Platinum any time soon. Right now they are more concerned with making profit to cover their big development costs (Nvidia is well over 300 Million for their 6800)
Intel and AMD will soon be reaching a flat line with their next generation complete dual core system.
Also HDDs above the 7200 RPM threshold do exist, but the very blunt problem is sufficient technology has not been provided to keep such a drive long lasting. Compared to a 7200 today it will have a comparatively lower life span due to the fact its still using almost-the-same parts.
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Nov 28, 2004 9:14:00 GMT -5
[quote author=[TNT]AnnaBeaver link=board=Brags&thread=1101176555&start=19#1 date=1101610527] technology has only really been around for 50-60yrs, and in the grand scope of time, that isn't very long. [/quote]
Pardon? Technology only been around for 50=60 years? You have the wrong deffinition of technology my friend. The f**kin' wedge is an example of technology: applied science. When we figured out that by placing a rod under a stone and on top of another right next to it and push down on the free end, it created more leverage than the average human could alone. So, to the contrary, technology isn't in it's infancy, the computer age is.
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Post by yeochins on Nov 28, 2004 11:50:43 GMT -5
Pardon? Technology only been around for 50=60 years? You have the wrong deffinition of technology my friend. The fucizzlein' wedge is an example of technology: applied science. When we figured out that by placing a rod under a stone and on top of another right next to it and push down on the free end, it created more leverage than the average human could alone. So, to the contrary, technology isn't in it's infancy, the computer age is. Actually more... Computers is the short form for Computation, which has been around for a lot longer than we can imagine. Calculators, even something as simple as adding 1+1 in your brain is computation, therefore computers have been around for even longer. If you narrow things down you get a timespan.
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Nov 28, 2004 12:13:51 GMT -5
... ok, Artificial computation age... goodgrief.
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Post by [TNT] SonicGoo on Nov 29, 2004 5:30:12 GMT -5
Aaaaaaanyways... I don't think the problem is the card - I have a feeling it's Windows. I'm hoping that once I have an internet connection, I'll be able to get the right updates to get things working. If it's the card, I might have enough money by then to get a really good one (paycheck tomorrow! yay!). If it's something else... I think I've found a way to check that, but haven't done it yet. As for computer economics - I think it's time someone mentioned Moore's Law.
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Nov 29, 2004 15:16:48 GMT -5
[quote author=[TNT] SonicGoo link=board=Brags&thread=1101176555&start=24#1 date=1101724212]As for computer economics - I think it's time someone mentioned Moore's Law.[/quote] You mean Murphey's? Anything that can happen will happen and shit like that?
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Post by [TNT] SonicGoo on Nov 30, 2004 9:02:43 GMT -5
I made the words 'Moore's Law' a link.
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Post by [GU]AnnaBeaver on Dec 1, 2004 12:35:21 GMT -5
When I'm speaking in terms of technology, I'm refering to computing. It has only been around since the early 1900's. The first computer was operated by electical switches and vacuum hoses/pumps and was as large as a house but was only a glorified calculator.
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Dec 1, 2004 16:31:00 GMT -5
[quote author=[TNT]AnnaBeaver link=board=Brags&thread=1101176555&start=27#1 date=1101922521]When I'm speaking in terms of technology, I'm refering to computing. It has only been around since the early 1900's. The first computer was operated by electical switches and vacuum hoses/pumps and was as large as a house but was only a glorified calculator.[/quote] I'm sorry, but that is very misleading.
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Post by [GU]AnnaBeaver on Dec 4, 2004 12:42:56 GMT -5
OH, good god
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