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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Sept 8, 2004 18:40:50 GMT -5
Is that an AFK statemet? I think it should be moved to the AFk section, but all-in-all, good speach m8. (And I beleive you're refering to punkbuster. It's a slightly complicated mess that works on both client side and server side and watches for odd coding instead of regularly causing lag spikes by checking for known hax.)
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Post by [GU]AnnaBeaver on Sept 8, 2004 20:26:25 GMT -5
I didn't mean to imply that it was xfire itself that was the culprit but that a possibility exists that it was sent via xfire since ports used by it are open for inbound as well as outbound communications. Since I tend to be very vigalent regarding updating virus/firewall and windows as well as running scans on regular basis.
Since ut and xfire are the only things on my pc that basically have unrestricted access my focus is on those 2 items. During my first attempt to correct which was uninstallation of xfire, funky dialog boxes ceased to appear as well as odd files attempting to access the internet stopped. In my opinion the removal of xfire corrected the issue. I have installed the newest version of xfire and have had no issues since. I only meant to imply that there were two routes of communication that were unrestricted (ut has standard gameport settings in Norton Internet Security as well as master server IP's allowing access through them) however, xfire was the only program with full open port access.
During login to xfire I would get 4 warnings from Norton about inbound communications. If I blocked them all which I normally do (and did) login on xfire didn't occur and since I'm not aware of where or from whom the IP's originate from they are blocked. I wasn't attempting to make an issue, only trying to explain my reasons for not appearing on xfire for the past 2 weeks or so. And I apologize, it wasn't my intent to hijack this thread.
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Sept 9, 2004 6:13:21 GMT -5
Thnx Anna. Now all problems aside, is this policy on bound to becoming official? I know we generaly don't have the same problems in UT that we do in BFV, which this geared towards, but nonetheless should be seen throughout TNT.
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Post by yeochins on Sept 9, 2004 6:21:50 GMT -5
[quote author=[TNT]AnnaBeaver link=board=Statements&thread=1094470476&start=16#1 date=1094693185]I didn't mean to imply that it was xfire itself that was the culprit but that a possibility exists that it was sent via xfire since ports used by it are open for inbound as well as outbound communications. Since I tend to be very vigalent regarding updating virus/firewall and windows as well as running scans on regular basis.
Since ut and xfire are the only things on my pc that basically have unrestricted access my focus is on those 2 items. During my first attempt to correct which was uninstallation of xfire, funky dialog boxes ceased to appear as well as odd files attempting to access the internet stopped. In my opinion the removal of xfire corrected the issue. I have installed the newest version of xfire and have had no issues since. I only meant to imply that there were two routes of communication that were unrestricted (ut has standard gameport settings in Norton Internet Security as well as master server IP's allowing access through them) however, xfire was the only program with full open port access.
During login to xfire I would get 4 warnings from Norton about inbound communications. If I blocked them all which I normally do (and did) login on xfire didn't occur and since I'm not aware of where or from whom the IP's originate from they are blocked. I wasn't attempting to make an issue, only trying to explain my reasons for not appearing on xfire for the past 2 weeks or so. And I apologize, it wasn't my intent to hijack this thread. [/quote]
Well knowing from knowledge it would not be sent using any form of xfire communication like I said it is a public service, therefore all people developing trojans wont send data through the xfire servers for that reason.
Your using norton which is personally the worse choice in software people can make, and 2 of those inbound (of your 4) are xfire related, 1 is to accept connections from the internet (this is why I use Zone Alarm Pro or ZA Enterprise edition, simply because its more accurate, better securety but not much on compatability with the built-in firewall of windows XP), and the 2nd one is to accept connections from the server (meaning your able to see the ad's at the top and where and on which servers people are on.)
In no way is a trojan ever using the xfire networks to send data of that type.
Now when you say "Unrestricted" you are talking about norton are you not? Well norton is not the tool you should be using, it does a sloppy job and all of their software from anti virus to firewall can be bypassed or shut down with a few simple pieces of code. Why? because they've got idiots developing their software who dont know how to link dependencies with windows-related systems to make it difficult to close.
It doesn't matter if Xfire or UT are the only ones with full open port access I have been known to insert code that would allow my programs hash, id, name, title appear as another program.
Once again there is no possibility its being sent through xfire unless someone really was an idiot and wanted to get caught. WE use IRC, and believe it or not, all the services you see today, AIM, MSN, ICQ, YIM, Xfire, GaduGadu, Jagga, all began with IRC, so naturally most of them have similar port ranges.
First before you start thinking its xfire follow the removal possibilities I mentioned in my previous post, if your still getting four connections needed look in your task manager and terminate any proccesses that look strange (look them up on google first, e.g. Search for SVCHOST.EXE , and you return with the details for that application, once you find the trojan on the list then you know what to look for on your system.) After that if its still requesting 4 incomming connections and you have terminated all the proccesses that are trojans then its simply xfire that is using 2 more connections that most firewalls would deem "casual" of a program.
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Sept 9, 2004 6:51:19 GMT -5
YEOCHINS! PLEASE READ THE NAME OF THE TOPIC! No offense brudda, but you way off topic. I'll admit, we let it slip a little, but no we need to either pass this policy or don't. I meen, this all sounds to me like you're trying to stab Anna in the head with a blunt knife.
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Post by Obster on Sept 9, 2004 11:33:47 GMT -5
LOL, but sieriously, i think mars`s idea is good.as long as our members have some honour left we will be ay-okay ;D
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Post by MaggotEight on Sept 9, 2004 16:49:05 GMT -5
Who cares if it's off topic, this is good stuff. Your crazy with your off topics.
Yeochins, you said that Norton sux, so what do you think is the best antivirus program. Right now I am using PC-cillin 2002 and I have Windows Service Pack 2. Is that a good anti virus setup?
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Sept 9, 2004 17:00:39 GMT -5
Maggot, just for your information, we are trying to get a little bit of buisness done. If you want to talk about anti-virus, then make a new topic and talk about it elsewere. If it was the comedy/spam area, we would let it go, becuase off topic is generaly allowed there. And that area is pretty much supposed to be entertainment. This area, however, is not ment for entertainment. You will post on topic, or risk removal of posts.
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Post by Obster on Sept 10, 2004 3:32:34 GMT -5
ya, i ofcourse am the theype of person that promotes spaming, but hey, this is rierious, kinda ;D
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Post by yeochins on Sept 10, 2004 6:32:37 GMT -5
[quote author=[TnT]Maggot(8) link=board=Statements&thread=1094470476&start=21#1 date=1094766545]Who cares if it's off topic, this is good stuff. Your crazy with your off topics.
Yeochins, you said that Norton sux, so what do you think is the best antivirus program. Right now I am using PC-cillin 2002 and I have Windows Service Pack 2. Is that a good anti virus setup?[/quote]
PC-Cillin is good from what I hear, Its only problem is that it freeze's on super-compressed archive-executables. I think the best is Exim, highly deployed on almost all datacenters, although there is truely no best, but there are those who dont come up to par, and norton antivirus is one of them. What is norton from a business point of view? A company that leech's money off of people that are new to computers or makes its software available in bulk to make it seem alot cheaper then the other tools. But in reality nortons tools are not to be trusted, you will only find yourself going out to buy other products such as mcafee, Zone Alarm, etc.
@mars: I know I'm off topic, but I'm just trying to tell anna that key-stealing trojans dont send the keys VIA public service, thats like me sending 1000 K's of weed through the mail service, and say its "fruit" I'm bound to get caught somewhere along the line. IRC is like that weed supernetwork in North America, with private lines, etc.
You know this would make an important grammatical study for those high school teachers, and about "transitions."
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Post by Ph4nt0m L0rd on Sept 10, 2004 15:57:11 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I think you have well gotten tat message through from you're first post. Anna's second post refered to the fact that it was a simple assumption that Xfire culprets were to blame, and generaly should have gotten the message through that she has been corrected. Got it?
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Post by [GU]AnnaBeaver on Sept 11, 2004 10:43:10 GMT -5
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